A Different Conversation About Systemic Racism

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Brown University professor and author of "Metaracism" Tricia Rose says Coleman Hughes is wrong, systemic racism is very much real in 2024, and we can't claim to be colorblind if we are to adequately address it.

Shermer and Rose discuss: the policies, practices, laws, and beliefs that are racist in 2024 and what can be done about them • racism, structural racism, systemic racism, metaracism • Rose’s working-class background growing up in 1960s Harlem • being “caught up in the system” • Trayvon Martin, Kelley Williams-Bolar, Michael Brown, and George Floyd • Rose’s response to Black conservative authors Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell • why she believes Coleman Hughes is wrong about colorblindness • Obama's legacy • reparations.

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